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mr. mandela became a living martyr. so he had the power beyond that. mr. gandhi was killed. dr. king was killed. he survived years beyond his imprisonment and became this huge global moral authority. and against the odds of being considered a terrorist. to go from considered a terrorist to moral authority, the most in the world world, i think about how long the world kept mr. mandela on the terrorist list, until july 2008. that's a source of shame to us. leadership led by the people like robinson and roger wilkins and holmes-norton. they laid the groundwork for his freedom. he always suppressed appreciation. >> may i ask you the last time you met with him and when you left if you got a sense that it would be the last time. >> it was difficult for him to hear at that time. he came to have a meeting. we took pictures together. we laughed. and i asked him about the farm where he finally was captured. and he said something interesting. he changed gears. he said, you know, that was the place i was captured. not full of regrets. and i didn't understand that. he said he became the comm
mr. mandela became a living martyr. so he had the power beyond that. mr. gandhi was killed. dr. king was killed. he survived years beyond his imprisonment and became this huge global moral authority. and against the odds of being considered a terrorist. to go from considered a terrorist to moral authority, the most in the world world, i think about how long the world kept mr. mandela on the terrorist list, until july 2008. that's a source of shame to us. leadership led by the people like...
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mandela. mr. obama often noted privately and publicly that his sacrifices would never compare to mr. mandela's. aide to mr. obama said he was uncomfortable when people drew parallels between them as often as they did. this is from "the new york time times", not "the washington post." i apologize. how fair are those comparisons? they are inevitable and now we're going to continue to read and hear more about them over the next few days and weeks. how fair are they? >> it depends on which mr. mandela you're talking about. >> and which mr. obama you're talking about. >> one of the things that we talk about is mr. mandela as a tremendous humanitarian leader and so on. and he really was. but he was also a politician. and he also had to hold together a coalition, find the way to steer his country forward as the first black representative in that democratically elected government. in that way, they do have a great deal in common. you do see a very nervous and frightened group of white south africans wonde
mandela. mr. obama often noted privately and publicly that his sacrifices would never compare to mr. mandela's. aide to mr. obama said he was uncomfortable when people drew parallels between them as often as they did. this is from "the new york time times", not "the washington post." i apologize. how fair are those comparisons? they are inevitable and now we're going to continue to read and hear more about them over the next few days and weeks. how fair are they? >> it...
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president obama met mandela only once while he was a senator in 2005. as president mr. obama travelled to see the cell where mandela was held for nearly two decades. he described his relationship to the man he and many others affectionately called madiba. >> he is a personal hero and i don't think i am u meek in that regard. he's a hero for the world. >> back this south africa, the mood is part sadness, but part celebration. crowds gathered to remember nelson mandela who changed the world by committing his to the freedom of the south african people. >> i have nothing but deep gratitude they have given to me as an individual and let me state this. they were able to achieve anything, i know that this is because i am the servant of the people of south africa. >> it has been more than two decades since nelson mandela walked out of prison, but for those who lived through it, it seemed to be a piece of a larger puzzle. consider when mandela was freed, we were less than a year removed from china's tianamen square. the berlin wall came down the previous november. it was a fleet
president obama met mandela only once while he was a senator in 2005. as president mr. obama travelled to see the cell where mandela was held for nearly two decades. he described his relationship to the man he and many others affectionately called madiba. >> he is a personal hero and i don't think i am u meek in that regard. he's a hero for the world. >> back this south africa, the mood is part sadness, but part celebration. crowds gathered to remember nelson mandela who changed the...
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mandela greeted them and to their amaizment as my code of honor. the authorities began treating him as a prison elder statesman. >> you have to understand, nelson mandela grew up in a house of royalty, the king in his village or in the village next to his was where he grew up. so he had a royal bearing. and i think he commanded respect. and he knew that. he didn't throw it around but he used it when it was important. so i think that, you know, during his time in prison, he did in fact begin to -- even though he may not have realized that he would ever get out of prison, but he took the steps that were necessary both with his comrades and the younger ones and older ones to be in a position to rule if that time ever came. i think this was the faith that eventually they would succeed that kept them all going. >> i want to hear you talk about the reaction you're seeing coming out of south africa to his passing. is the sense of mourning and sense of south africa losing its father figure almost, how universal is your sense is that feeling? are there any
mandela greeted them and to their amaizment as my code of honor. the authorities began treating him as a prison elder statesman. >> you have to understand, nelson mandela grew up in a house of royalty, the king in his village or in the village next to his was where he grew up. so he had a royal bearing. and i think he commanded respect. and he knew that. he didn't throw it around but he used it when it was important. so i think that, you know, during his time in prison, he did in fact...
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mandela would simply not see a free south africa. and those who were in our 20s at the time, i thought by the time change came in south africa, we would be pretty old and not make a contribution to a democratic south africa. i thought it would be extremely bloody and conflict ridden. and we would inherit a country that would take time to heal and rebuild and just get people together again. i was convinced that it was never going to happen in -- in -- so soon. even by '85 i didn't think it would happen in the lifetime of many, many people who have played a good and leading role in building a democratic south africa. >> and nelson mandela was freed from prison in 1990 as inaugurated as president of south africa in 1994. thank you so much for joining us and reflecting on this important day. our deepest on dole lances to you and everyone in south africa on this huge, huge loss. he went on to become the ceo of the nelson mandela foundation, by the way. >>> joining us later today, i'll be edit sitting down and speaking with former presiden
mandela would simply not see a free south africa. and those who were in our 20s at the time, i thought by the time change came in south africa, we would be pretty old and not make a contribution to a democratic south africa. i thought it would be extremely bloody and conflict ridden. and we would inherit a country that would take time to heal and rebuild and just get people together again. i was convinced that it was never going to happen in -- in -- so soon. even by '85 i didn't think it would...
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his long walk to freedom, mr. mandela's constant fight for equality personified what my father often said injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere. we showed briefly a second ago in new york city the apollo theatre marquis honors mandela. mayor bookberg announced he'll open a high school in honor of mandela. how much impact do you think mandela's life and times have on the civil rights movement and certainly during '80s and '90s when advocates demanded sanctions against apartheid in south africa. >> how much did it have? >> how much did it raise the credibility? >> tremendously. the fact the united states came on board. fortunately the united states came on board. it might have been a little late some would say. if you looked at other country they had come on board much earlier. what the united states did, students and universities started to say we want to divest our holdings in south africa. that was huge. when you impact a nation economically, then the community has to pay attention. business had to
his long walk to freedom, mr. mandela's constant fight for equality personified what my father often said injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere. we showed briefly a second ago in new york city the apollo theatre marquis honors mandela. mayor bookberg announced he'll open a high school in honor of mandela. how much impact do you think mandela's life and times have on the civil rights movement and certainly during '80s and '90s when advocates demanded sanctions against apartheid in...
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mr. mandela's body is being prepared now for his lying in state. that will happen late they are week. on tuesday, there will be an official memorial service, then there will be a state funeral on sunday in the village where he grew up. >>> number four, mexican police have recovered stolen radioactive material and are grilling six men who may be connected to the theft. the men tested negative for any poisoning from that material. they're now in police custody. mexican authorities say they've recovered all of the lost cobalt-60 material, but they've been tight-lipped about whether they've made any arrests in the broader case. >>> services will be held today in hawaii to mark the 72nd anniversary of the japanese attack on pearl harbor. lots of veterans and survivors are angry that the traditional missing-man flyover, you saw one there, has been cancelled this year. because of military budget constraints. >>> blockbuster jobs report for november. >> yeah. >> and it could not have come at a better time really for president obama. he's not had a lot of g
mr. mandela's body is being prepared now for his lying in state. that will happen late they are week. on tuesday, there will be an official memorial service, then there will be a state funeral on sunday in the village where he grew up. >>> number four, mexican police have recovered stolen radioactive material and are grilling six men who may be connected to the theft. the men tested negative for any poisoning from that material. they're now in police custody. mexican authorities say...
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except mr. mandela. i find him outstanding. being terribly cool and relaxed. that's the first time i met him. again, i met mr. mandela in his office, in his law office in johannesburg in 1952 where he posed for me for a photograph in front of his desk. again, i found i had this impression of him being a very relaxed and self controlled person. >> i want to go back to the first picture we showed. i understand it is your favorite. it is of mandela in his cell on robben island in 1994. voted one of the most memorable images of the 20th century. give us insight into this moment. if you spoke with him or what he was thinking at that moment. >> it is very difficult for me to know what he was thinking. i imagine that at that time, he had spent 17 years in this cell. i asked him if he would stand against the window and look out through the bars. he did that for me. i photographed a number of pictures of him standing looking out. there was a moment of total quietness and it was a very thoughtful moment. i noticed the different frames i shot as the expressions changed f
except mr. mandela. i find him outstanding. being terribly cool and relaxed. that's the first time i met him. again, i met mr. mandela in his office, in his law office in johannesburg in 1952 where he posed for me for a photograph in front of his desk. again, i found i had this impression of him being a very relaxed and self controlled person. >> i want to go back to the first picture we showed. i understand it is your favorite. it is of mandela in his cell on robben island in 1994. voted...
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he said, mr. mandela, about the communists, and madiba said, well, they were the only ones that helped had us, next question. >> interesting. >> and moved right ahead. >> you afforded him a ticker tape parade down the canyon of heroes, which was reserved for very few. that's like amelia earhart, john glen, jesse owens. that was extraordinary. did he understand the significance of that? did he get it? >> oh, yes. he was a very wise man, and he understood the significance. later when we had a gathering at yankees sta yankees stadium, it must have been 60,000, 70,000 people. i put the yankee jacket around his shoulders and the cap, and he looked out at the crowd and said, now you know who i am. i am a yankee. and that went around the world. george steinbrenner was so impressed he said, i'll pay for it. >> you know that was impressive he was going to put out for that. how about the reception in harlem? what was that like? >> it was amazing. he spoke at 125th and lenox avenue, the site from which peopl
he said, mr. mandela, about the communists, and madiba said, well, they were the only ones that helped had us, next question. >> interesting. >> and moved right ahead. >> you afforded him a ticker tape parade down the canyon of heroes, which was reserved for very few. that's like amelia earhart, john glen, jesse owens. that was extraordinary. did he understand the significance of that? did he get it? >> oh, yes. he was a very wise man, and he understood the significance....
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years later, he met mrs. obama and her daughters. by all accounts, the measure of this man can be taken by what he wants to be remembered for. here lies medicalson mandela, said a man who has done his duty on earth. keith, in his news. >> let me show you how investor sentiment has been around south africa so far this year. a bit of a slow start. most of its gains staggered towards the second half of this year. 13 plus percent. a decent performance, hasn't quite matched up to the developed markets for gains we're seeing so far this year. pausing for five minutes in the market session for the passing of mandela. some people are concerned that it means social and racial divides could escalate again. this is how the rand has been performing so far this year. it has been under pressure. so the market has seen a pullback in the rand over the course of this year. in trade today, there's been a little bit of a softening up to the brand. u.s. futures, let's move on to that and see how the u.s. market is shaping up after five straight days of
years later, he met mrs. obama and her daughters. by all accounts, the measure of this man can be taken by what he wants to be remembered for. here lies medicalson mandela, said a man who has done his duty on earth. keith, in his news. >> let me show you how investor sentiment has been around south africa so far this year. a bit of a slow start. most of its gains staggered towards the second half of this year. 13 plus percent. a decent performance, hasn't quite matched up to the developed...
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mandela back in 1990. i want you to tell people because you were literally star struck. >> i absolutely was. i've been blessed to be around some phenomenal people, some great leaders, but there's no one like nelson mandela. so yes, the first time i was in his company was immediately after we had organized a glorious ticker tape for him parade down broadway in manhattan. we took him into city hall in new york, and had found myself alone with him in the mayor's office. and i didn't realize that i had been just staring at the man for probably ten minutes till i heard a voice say, excuse me, young man. can i trouble you for that glass of water. i realized that he had probably asked me several times for some water after being out in the heat and this long parade. i raced, got him the water and darn near spilled it all over him, i was so incredibly nervous and in awe of him. even though when you were around him, you were in awe, there was something about him that will created an accessibility, too. i never exper
mandela back in 1990. i want you to tell people because you were literally star struck. >> i absolutely was. i've been blessed to be around some phenomenal people, some great leaders, but there's no one like nelson mandela. so yes, the first time i was in his company was immediately after we had organized a glorious ticker tape for him parade down broadway in manhattan. we took him into city hall in new york, and had found myself alone with him in the mayor's office. and i didn't realize...
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mr. newman had to say before boarding his plane to the united states. >> i'm very glad to be on my way home. i appreciate the tolerance the dprk government has given to me to be on my way. >> how do you feel now? >> i feel good. i feel good. >> what will you have to do, first thing? >> first thing, what would you like to do? >> go home and see my wife. [ laughter ] >> reporter: newman had lived most of his life in palo alto, following his militarily service, he was a high schoolteacher and later became a successful silicon valley executive. he is said to have been a world traveler, was a scuba diver, had sailed around the world. so even given his age, again, 85 years old, it wasn't terribly surprising to people who knew him that he would want to go back to north korea. fred? >> and, dan, is there a better explanation as to why he was quote/unquote deported now? >> reporter: it's a very good question. you know, he did give that, what can only be characterized as a stilted apology when he w
mr. newman had to say before boarding his plane to the united states. >> i'm very glad to be on my way home. i appreciate the tolerance the dprk government has given to me to be on my way. >> how do you feel now? >> i feel good. i feel good. >> what will you have to do, first thing? >> first thing, what would you like to do? >> go home and see my wife. [ laughter ] >> reporter: newman had lived most of his life in palo alto, following his militarily...
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stunned to see you support this scumb scumbag, mr. cruz. he was a communist, a huge supporter of abortion. putting him in the same language of stalin, fdr, who are also dead and don't deserve a eulogy either. what does that tell us about the generations reflecting on this? >> shocking comments. these are ted cruz's ostensible supporters. how incredibly disturbing must it be for americans to read that, to say this is -- this vein of political thought, however large or small it is, exists in our country. >> i hope it's disturbing to us. >> i hope so. >> i'm mostly disturbed that maybe it isn't disturbing to us. >> obviously americans who agree with it, they're out there. i can't imagine it's a very large population, but it saez lot about people have asked for a long time what's the racial perspective of tea party members. unfortunately this is the perspective of some of them. >> remember, where you started the conversation about dr. king, i was radicalized partly, and that's ral caddized in a student protest contest, but radicalized or politi
stunned to see you support this scumb scumbag, mr. cruz. he was a communist, a huge supporter of abortion. putting him in the same language of stalin, fdr, who are also dead and don't deserve a eulogy either. what does that tell us about the generations reflecting on this? >> shocking comments. these are ted cruz's ostensible supporters. how incredibly disturbing must it be for americans to read that, to say this is -- this vein of political thought, however large or small it is, exists...
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on "face the nation" yesterday bob schieffer focused mandela's life. good morning to you. >> good morning. >> i loved the show how you started with maya angelou and ended with the poem she had written for him because it so brilliantly captured his life and what it meant. >> she is an amazing person in her own right. >> i think so too. >> when i called her last week and asked her to be on i thought -- she's not in the best of health. she can't travel very much and she said, no i'll do it because i want to. and then i found autoout she had written this poem. she didn't tell us. she told us on the show when the state department asked her to do this not to disclose it for -- until 48 hours after he was dead. >> how did you get gayle king to do it? >> you know that was an e-mail from bob schieffer to gayle king. yeah. what they're saying in south africa, though today about him while they're grieving, of course they're also celebrating. i saw one woman who said the old man did his part and he did it well and now we must let him go. what do you think people s
on "face the nation" yesterday bob schieffer focused mandela's life. good morning to you. >> good morning. >> i loved the show how you started with maya angelou and ended with the poem she had written for him because it so brilliantly captured his life and what it meant. >> she is an amazing person in her own right. >> i think so too. >> when i called her last week and asked her to be on i thought -- she's not in the best of health. she can't travel very...
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. >>> president and mrs. obama are traveling to south africa today to attend tuesday's public memorial service for nelson mandela. the anti-apartheid icon died thursday at the age of 95. former president george w. bush and his wife were invited to join the obamas aboard air force one. president obama's expected to speak at the service which is being held at a 90,000-seat sports stadium in johannesburg. >>> some of the nation's top reformers of all time were honored last night in washington. piano man billy joel, opera star martina arroyo, herbie hancock, shirley maclaine and carlos santana received kennedy center honors. the president was among those paying tribute. >>> prince harry's trek to the south pole with the teams of wounded service members including one from the u.s. is no longer a race. nbc's ayman mohyeldin tells us why it's been turned into an exercise of survival and cooperation. >> reporter: it began as a race to the south pole. wounded soldiers, hollywood actors and a prince. three teams all ra
. >>> president and mrs. obama are traveling to south africa today to attend tuesday's public memorial service for nelson mandela. the anti-apartheid icon died thursday at the age of 95. former president george w. bush and his wife were invited to join the obamas aboard air force one. president obama's expected to speak at the service which is being held at a 90,000-seat sports stadium in johannesburg. >>> some of the nation's top reformers of all time were honored last night...